Join Gerardo, Lauren, Mindy, and John for an all-new episode as they discuss the second and third weeks of Lori Daybell's trial. This is your chance to catch up on one of the most bizarre trials of the year, as the panel guides you through the latest jaw-dropping testimonies, and intriguing Mormon themes unfolding in Ada County's courthouse. 00:03:40 Lauren said she saw a photo of Chad and Lori. I thought “these two look like anyone I would go to church with” 00:06:10 Background of Zulema 00:08:20 Alex Cox’s fingerprints on the bag that held the remains of JJ’s body. 00:10:13 They believed that Charles had been possessed by evil spirits 00:10:57 Audio Clip 1 - Zulema (she was at the temple that morning) 00:14:46 Casting out the demon named Hiplos (pronounced Eplos) 00:17:21 The names of the devils that possessed Charles 00:19:05 Zulema’s special power was control over the weather 00:24:00 Lori is facing charges in Arizona for her husband's death 00:25:45 David Warwick - background, involvement, etc 00:29:55 Clip 2 - David Warwick 00:35:00 There is never any hindsight for Chad and Lori that humanizes the children 00:38:05 This is a rather large group of people who believe in the end times and the 144,000. This is a core part of Vallow/Daybell beliefs. 00:44:00 There is a double standard for people on the right. 00:49:30 The Church needs to get involved in this 00:57:35 David Warwick’s involvement at the time of the killings, at their townhouse for a podcast 01:00:30 David Warwick had a nightmare 01:02:35 Audio Clip 3 - David Warwick 01:04:04 Gerardo comments on how the prosecutor really does NOT want David talking about all of this 01:04:37 Continued Audio Clip 3 01:08:30 Lauren - I never loved the defense more than in this moment 01:17:22 Background of Colby Ryan 01:18:00 Audio Clip 4 - Phone call from Colby Ryan “you murdered my siblings.” 01:23:00 Lori laughs. 01:24:24 Reactions to the phone call. 01:30:05 Problems with teaching personal revelation 01:35:00 Trigger Warning 01:35:36 Audio Clip 5 - Cause of death of JJ Vallow 01:43:00 Lauren’s theory on what happened to JJ the day he died 01:50:10 In her mind they were killing a zombie 01:51:40 Audio Clip 6 - Tammy’s manner of death 02:02:40 The fact that Chad requested that no autopsy had been done is very damning 02:05:30 Audio Clip 7 - Investigation of temple visits for Chad and Lori 02:14:00 The FBI agent pointed to a pattern that before each murder, they went to the temple. 02:21:22 The Spirit of Discernment 02:24:50 In the handbook of instructions bishops are still told to use the Spirit of Discernment. 02:26:17 Tammy’s sister Samantha testified in court 02:33:40 Audio Clip 8 - Summer’s phone call to Lori 02:40:23 Reactions to the phone call 02:44:40 Lori is standing firm in these beliefs because the alternative is that she’s a murderer 02:50:50 We should all reflect on our beliefs with humility 02:54:20 Closing remarks