Is gold still undervalued, even after hitting record highs? Tavi Costa says yes, and makes the case for $20,000+ gold. In this insightful interview, Crescat Capital’s macro strategist Tavi Costa joins Trey Reik to explain why we’re in the early stages of a “Great Rotation” out of overvalued U.S. equities and into hard assets like gold, silver, and commodities. Tavi also lays out why traditional 60/40 portfolios are set to underperform for years, how U.S. debt levels and deglobalization are pressuring the dollar, and why central banks (and possibly even the U.S. Treasury) are quietly turning back to gold. He also reveals: - Why the 2-year Treasury yield could collapse - Why the S&P 500’s best years may be behind it - Why silver may be “the cheapest metal on Earth” - And how AI, onshoring, and infrastructure needs are creating a boom in commodity demand Chapters:01:09 - Crescat’s Three‑Pronged Strategy 05:45 - Defining the “Great Market Rotation” 10:14 - What’s Driving Crescat’s 2025 Outperformance 13:38 - Why the 60/40 Portfolio Is in Trouble 16:49 - Commodities vs. Equities: The Historic Discount 20:36 - Three Forces Fueling Gold’s Surge 24:36 - Why This Gold Cycle Could Be the Biggest Yet 30:03 - When Will It Be Time to Sell Gold? 36:32 - Valuing Gold: A $20K+ Playbook? 41:25 - Gold’s Role in the Next Monetary System 44:48 - 2025 Outlook: Rates, Commodities, and Markets 47:35 - Is Silver the Cheapest Metal on Earth? Volatility got you concerned? Get a free portfolio review with Wealthion’s endorsed financial advisors at https://bit.ly/3SBaGpv Hard Assets Alliance - The Best Way to Invest in Gold and Silver: https://www.hardassetsalliance.com/?aff=WTH Connect with us online: Website: https://www.wealthion.com X: https://www.x.com/wealthion Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wealthionofficial/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wealthion/ #Wealthion #Wealth #Finance #Investing #Gold #Silver #Commodities #MacroEconomics #DeDollarization #GreatRotation #TaviCosta #EconomicShift #MonetaryPolicy #MarketOutlook #Mag7 ________________________________________________________________________ The opinions and information shared by Tavi in this discussion are his own, and not necessarily those of Crescat. Any investments discussed may or may not be held by Crescat. Investments carry risk including risk of loss. ________________________________________________________________________ IMPORTANT NOTE: The information, opinions, and insights expressed by our guests do not necessarily reflect the views of Wealthion. They are intended to provide a diverse perspective on the economy, investing, and other relevant topics to enrich your understanding of these complex fields. While we value and appreciate the insights shared by our esteemed guests, they are to be viewed as personal opinions and not as investment advice or recommendations from Wealthion. These opinions should not replace your own due diligence or the advice of a professional financial advisor. We strongly encourage all of our audience members to seek out the guidance of a financial advisor who can provide advice based on your individual circumstances and financial goals. Wealthion has a distinguished network of advisors who are available to guide you on your financial journey. However, should you choose to seek guidance elsewhere, we respect and support your decision to do so. The world of finance and investment is intricate and diverse. It's our mission at Wealthion to provide you with a variety of insights and perspectives to help you navigate it more effectively. We thank you for your understanding and your trust.