Join with us today as we continue to discuss the history of racism in the Mormon church with historian Matt Harris. We will discuss segregation in Utah, including blood banks, hotels, in Relief Societies, etc. In the 1950s a talk was given by Mormon leader Mark E. Petersen that generated a lot of backlash from critics. Matt Harris gives an insider's view into the minds of these Mormon leaders and how they were not all in agreement with the priesthood and temple ban. We are thrilled to announce that we have reached our donation goal to compensate Dr. Matt Harris for his contributions to this series. We sincerely thank everyone who supported this effort. While the goal to pay Matt has been met, producing this series incurred significant costs for the Open Stories Foundation. If you find value in this content and want to help cover these expenses and support future productions, we encourage you to donate at https://www.mormonstories.org/donate/ Your generosity makes a difference—thank you! Purchase Matt Harris’ book “Second Class Saints” https://www.amazon.com/Second-Class-Saints-Mormons-Struggle-Equality/dp/019769571X/ You can read Mark E. Petersen’s talk here: https://archive.org/details/RaceProblemsAsTheyAffectTheChurchMarkEPetersen/page/n1/mode/2up Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/mormons-blame-god-for-segregation/ Chapters 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:43 Recap of the last episode 00:09:15 How the apostles respond to the brown decision 00:11:09 How segregation affected Church leaders 00:12:50 Black celebrities coming to Hotel Utah 00:16:20 The Green Book 00:18:30 Blood Banks in Utah 00:23:09 Zoning maps in Utah 00:28:20 Segregation in the Church 00:34:55 The famous CES meeting 00:42:40 God was the author of segregation 00:52:20 Who is in the room during Mark E. Peterson’s talk 01:01:05 How did the Lamanite curse apply to black people? 01:03:55 When will black people lose the curse and be white? 01:13:45 Nuggets from the CES meeting 01:18:25 Sinning in the pre-existence 01:33:00 Bennion challenging the apostle 01:45:00 Mark E. Petersen regrets giving this talk 01:53:00 Petersen denies he ever gave the talk 02:00:20 What would have happened if the ban was lifted sooner? ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/join Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117