Were the 8 witnesses to Joseph Smith's golden plates actually credible? Or just gullible relatives caught up in his delusion? Shockingly candid statements from witnesses like Hiram Page and John Whitmer seem to contradict and undermine official LDS teachings about their testimonies. What are the implications of the past witnesses on today’s modern church? @NEMOTHEMORMON and @analyzingmormonism join John Dehlin to discuss! LDS Discussions Full Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/portfolio-items/bom-8-witnesses 00:00:00 Beginning 00:06:30 Book of Mormon Prophecy of Eight Witnesses? 00:10:45 “Summary” of the Eight Witnesses 00:14:30 BH Roberts on the Eight Witnesses 00:18:10 The Testimony of the Eight Witnesses 00:20:45 About the Statements 00:26:35 Almost all were Related 00:28:35 Mark Twain 00:29:30 No Original Signatures 00:29:30 Oliver Cowdery was Willing to Deny His Testimony 00:37:45 The Church NEVER taught that anyone denied 00:38:20 What else do we have from the Eight Witnesses? 00:45:15 Messenger and Advocate Mar 1836 00:47:15 Letter from Stephen Burnett to Br. Johnson 00:52:00 Theodore Turley’s Memorandums, Apr 1839 00:53:40 Times and Seasons, Dec 1839 00:54:30 Lucy Mack Smith History 00:58:25 The Ensign of Liberty, Mar 1847 01:01:00 Marvin S. Hill on Hiram Page 01:03:20 Taking Another Look at the Testimonies 01:08:30 Thomas Ford, 1854 01:17:20 Millennial Star, June 1863 01:20:05 Historical Magazine, May 1870 01:23:54 How Did the Plates Look? 01:34:40 Deseret News Aug 1878 01:42:33 Interview with Myron H. Bond, Saints Herald Aug 1878 01:43:10 Samuel’s Testimony to Daniel Tyler, 1832 01:43:47 Jacob’s Testimony according to his son, John, Sep 1888 01:45:02 Closing Thoughts and Summary LDS Discussions Full Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories LDS Discussions Platforms: Website & Essays: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com Anchor: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2UkFsqYDl5SHiRX2dvA9MO YouTube Playlist on Mormon Stories Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced LDS Discussions on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/ldsdiscussions Facebook: facebook.com/ldsdiscussion Insta: instagram.com/ldsdiscussions Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Mormon Stories on Social Media: 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF