In this in-depth interview, Jared and Camille share their intertwined journeys through faith, family, and personal growth within the Mormon Church. They discuss formative experiences, from Jared’s basketball career and mission (under Jeffrey Holland and Brad Wilcox) —where he faced challenges like fraudulent baptisms in Chile and an unexpected interview with Apostle Richard G. Scott—to Camille’s teenage struggles with modesty, faith and mental health. Their love story, temple experiences, and navigating higher callings in the Church, including Jared's time as a bishop, reveal the pressures and impacts of leadership roles. Join us as we explore how these experiences transformed their lives, their perspectives on faith, and how their mental health and relationship have evolved since leaving the Church. Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/mormon-power-couple-abandons-church/ 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:10 Intentions 00:11:51 How is basketball career went 00:20:44 Jared’s family system 00:25:29 Camille’s Mormon story 00:33:55 Struggling with modesty 00:44:28 Her biggest fears with Jared and their relationship 00:51:18 Her patriarchal blessing said she had the gift of faith 00:57:10 Her brother serving a mission and coming home early 01:08:44 Jared’s mission experience 01:16:17 Being asked to be interviewed by Richard G Scott 01:25:45 Serving his mission, having five mission presidents 01:35:21 Fraudulent baptisms in Chile 01:48:26 Their love story 01:50:00 Going through the temple for the first time 02:04:13 Having children and higher church callings 02:08:49 Disciplinary Councils and excommunications 02:14:19 What happens when someone is excommunicated? 02:30:19 Camille served in the Primary Presidency 02:35:24 Jared being called as a bishop 02:36:20 Friendships in the church 02:44:53 Keeping up with the Johnsons 02:54:32 During 2015 she couldn’t even function anymore 02:57:35 Depression among Mormon women in Utah 03:02:30 Jared get called as a bishop 03:06:07 How did she feel about being a bishop’s wife? 03:16:45 Best and worst things of being a bishop 03:23:24 How the church approaches porn is far more harmful than the porn itself 03:29:38 What parts didn’t he like about being a bishop? 03:44:32 Why being a bishop was so heavy and hard 03:48:46 The shelf items of Mormonism for Camille 03:51:50 Camille’s struggles with garments 03:59:49 Jared reaction to Camille and the children no longer going to church 04:05:44 Any training on the Gospel Topics Essays 04:23:40 He had a breakdown as a bishop 04:34:17 Jared literally thought he was going to die 04:42:00 Feeling unsupported after Jared was released as the bishop 04:56:54 Are they happier now? How is their mental health since leaving? ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/join Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117